Progressions with differences from a difference set
DefinitionErdős Problem 1185: progressions with difference in a difference set#✓fully proved
This is the statement that for every real \(\delta > 0\) and every natural number \(k \ge 3\) there is a natural number \(m \ge 1\) such that for all sufficiently large natural numbers \(N\), whenever \(A\) and \(B\) are subsets of \(\{1, \dots, N\}\) with \(|A| \ge \delta N\) and \(|B| \ge m\), there are natural numbers \(a\) and \(d > 0\) such that \(b_1 = b_2 + d\) for some \(b_1, b_2 \in B\) and \(a + i d \in A\) for every natural number \(i < k\); that is, \(A\) contains the \(k\)-term arithmetic progression \(a, a + d, \dots, a + (k - 1) d\), whose common difference \(d\) is positive and lies in \(B - B\).
def progressionWithDifferenceInDifferenceSet : Prop :=
∀ δ : ℝ, 0 < δ → ∀ k : ℕ, 3 ≤ k → ∃ m : ℕ, 1 ≤ m ∧ ∀ᶠ N : ℕ in atTop,
∀ A B : Finset ℕ, A ⊆ Finset.Icc 1 N → B ⊆ Finset.Icc 1 N → δ * N ≤ A.card → m ≤ B.card →
∃ a d : ℕ, 0 < d ∧ (∃ b₁ ∈ B, ∃ b₂ ∈ B, b₂ + d = b₁) ∧ ∀ i < k, a + i * d ∈ A
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TheoremErdős Problem 1185 is false#●ready to prove
The following statement is false: for every real \(\delta > 0\) and every natural number \(k \ge 3\) there is a natural number \(m \ge 1\) such that for all sufficiently large natural numbers \(N\), whenever \(A\) and \(B\) are subsets of \(\{1, \dots, N\}\) with \(|A| \ge \delta N\) and \(|B| \ge m\), there are natural numbers \(a\) and \(d > 0\) such that \(b_1 = b_2 + d\) for some \(b_1, b_2 \in B\) and \(a + i d \in A\) for every natural number \(i < k\).
The answer is negative already for \(k = 3\): Furstenberg gave an infinite set \(B\) such that \(B - B\) is not \(2\)-intersective, that is, some set of positive density contains no \(3\)-term progression with common difference in \(B - B\); truncating both sets at \(N\) gives counterexamples with \(|B \cap [1, N]|\) unbounded.
public theorem_wanted progressionWithDifferenceInDifferenceSet_refuted :
¬ progressionWithDifferenceInDifferenceSet
def progressionWithDifferenceInDifferenceSet : Prop :=
∀ δ : ℝ, 0 < δ → ∀ k : ℕ, 3 ≤ k → ∃ m : ℕ, 1 ≤ m ∧ ∀ᶠ N : ℕ in atTop,
∀ A B : Finset ℕ, A ⊆ Finset.Icc 1 N → B ⊆ Finset.Icc 1 N → δ * N ≤ A.card → m ≤ B.card →
∃ a d : ℕ, 0 < d ∧ (∃ b₁ ∈ B, ∃ b₂ ∈ B, b₂ + d = b₁) ∧ ∀ i < k, a + i * d ∈ A
WantedExt/Combinatorics/ProgressionDifferenceSetErdosProblem1185Wanted.lean:42
Sources
- T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problems, Problem #1185, https://www.erdosproblems.com/1185 (status SOLVED); resolution: H. Furstenberg, Recurrence in Ergodic Theory and Combinatorial Number Theory, Princeton University Press (1981), erdosproblems.com/1185: false already at k = 3, since Furstenberg gave an infinite set B such that B - B is not 2-intersective.
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